Google Vs. Yahoo! Where will You Search?
*Google results are better now, see at the end of the post
IIPM recently took panga with the Indian blogsphere by leaving filthy comments on a few blog posts and by serving legal notice to three bloggers. I could have given you the links but an excellent and extensive coverage of the issue can be found at Desipundit.
http://www.desipundit.com/2005/10/08/lies-damned-lies-and-fake-blogs/#more-1218
But I have already written about the issue and today I want to talk about Google and Yahoo! search. Now, if I have to do a search where will I go? Google, you will say. Till date, I would have agreed with you, but this may change and I may use Yahoo! first from now on. Let me explain, and now, I will slyly take you back to the IIPM issue.
My travel readers (the few that I have) are going to ditch me forever, Bo ho ho hu hu :( But I will take the risk and ask their forgiveness.
I searched IIPM on both Google and Yahoo! almost at the same time today (you know I had to click one ‘search’ in one window first and then go to the next one, hence a fraction of a second delay).
On Google the top ten searches are boring and like what one would expect of a big corporate giant (though their news search now picks up one of the newspaper stories about Bloggers Vs. IIPM now). These are the top ten links on Google (at 11.20 on October 13, 2005, IST)
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipm.com/
http://www.iipm.ac.in/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://www.iipm-mpri.org/iipm/
http://web.idrc.ca/es/ev-70315-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html
http://www.iipmchennai.com/
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/iipm/
http://www.cflogic.com/Mgtindia/InstitutesProfiles/IIPMprofile.htm
http://www.domain-b.com/organisation/indian_institute_planning_management/20030702_ranked.htm
You see what I mean, no mention of the huge effort on the part of the blogging community.
Now let us go to Yahoo! and here is what we get for IIPM at the same hour:
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/#top
http://www.iipmchennai.com/
http://www.jeffooi.com/
www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=IIPM
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/
http://www.desipundit.com/
http://www.chennai.iipm.edu/
Now you see the difference? Tou aap kaun sa wala search karoge? (Which one are you going to search?)
Me? Yahoo! has definitely got me interested with their idea of mixing blogs and regular sites.
Update I did a Google search just now (October 14, 2005; 12:31 PM) and the results are very different. Here it goes.
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipm.ac.in/
http://www.iipm.com/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2005/10/im-disconnecting-my-cable-connection.html
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2005/10/update.html
http://www.iipm-mpri.org/iipm/
http://technorati.com/search/iipm
http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-70315-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/iipm/
Looks much better now. What say you?
IIPM recently took panga with the Indian blogsphere by leaving filthy comments on a few blog posts and by serving legal notice to three bloggers. I could have given you the links but an excellent and extensive coverage of the issue can be found at Desipundit.
http://www.desipundit.com/2005/10/08/lies-damned-lies-and-fake-blogs/#more-1218
But I have already written about the issue and today I want to talk about Google and Yahoo! search. Now, if I have to do a search where will I go? Google, you will say. Till date, I would have agreed with you, but this may change and I may use Yahoo! first from now on. Let me explain, and now, I will slyly take you back to the IIPM issue.
My travel readers (the few that I have) are going to ditch me forever, Bo ho ho hu hu :( But I will take the risk and ask their forgiveness.
I searched IIPM on both Google and Yahoo! almost at the same time today (you know I had to click one ‘search’ in one window first and then go to the next one, hence a fraction of a second delay).
On Google the top ten searches are boring and like what one would expect of a big corporate giant (though their news search now picks up one of the newspaper stories about Bloggers Vs. IIPM now). These are the top ten links on Google (at 11.20 on October 13, 2005, IST)
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipm.com/
http://www.iipm.ac.in/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://www.iipm-mpri.org/iipm/
http://web.idrc.ca/es/ev-70315-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html
http://www.iipmchennai.com/
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/iipm/
http://www.cflogic.com/Mgtindia/InstitutesProfiles/IIPMprofile.htm
http://www.domain-b.com/organisation/indian_institute_planning_management/20030702_ranked.htm
You see what I mean, no mention of the huge effort on the part of the blogging community.
Now let us go to Yahoo! and here is what we get for IIPM at the same hour:
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/#top
http://www.iipmchennai.com/
http://www.jeffooi.com/
www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=IIPM
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/
http://www.desipundit.com/
http://www.chennai.iipm.edu/
Now you see the difference? Tou aap kaun sa wala search karoge? (Which one are you going to search?)
Me? Yahoo! has definitely got me interested with their idea of mixing blogs and regular sites.
Update I did a Google search just now (October 14, 2005; 12:31 PM) and the results are very different. Here it goes.
http://www.iipm.edu/
http://www.iipm.ac.in/
http://www.iipm.com/
http://www.iipmindia.com/
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2005/10/im-disconnecting-my-cable-connection.html
http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2005/10/update.html
http://www.iipm-mpri.org/iipm/
http://technorati.com/search/iipm
http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-70315-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html
http://www.nikhilkhade.com/iipm/
Looks much better now. What say you?
Labels: blogging
posted by Mridula at 11:42 AM
15 Comments:
Ha, funny! :)
I hope you found it funny in a good way? And not in a silly way!
I do love yahoo. I'm a loyal yahoo gal. :)
Momo, you are the wise one. Did yu check Technorati of late? This isue of IIPM is stuck as the top or near top search.
Hey, good that you brought this up. I like yahoo more too. Apart from the search engines, all Google is doing is copying and (sometimes) improving Yahoo's and other's application, e.g. maps,locals etc. I hope they don't become like microsoft killer applications ( you know how microsoft internet explorer tried to kill netscape..). Also, even though gmail has a lot of space, the organizational facilities (no folders etc.) is pathetic. I don't understand why people are always drooling over any and whatever applications google is dishing out.
talking about search engine i have an intresting finding
Is iipm spamming google , msn and yahoo search engines ? i would say Yes
http://puneetworld.indiablogs.org/archives/2005/10/is_iipm_spammin_1.html
(you know I had to click one ‘search’ in one window first and then go to the next one, hence a fraction of a second delay).
For geeks like us, there's Twingine!
one advantage of google search is u can selectively search blogs (thnx to their owning up blogger.com)
n btw...y leave out poor msn search in the race??
In this particular case bloggers have something important and significant to say. However this isn't the case in the most part. To avoid insignificant search results, google places blogs lower on its index and hence has released a specialized search for blogs:
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q=IIPM
stumbled through lot of back alleys to come here.....mainly ofcourse the current hot potato....hmm..but seems quite disloyal to ditch Google...LOL....will test the hypothesis...
I like Yahoo, too. I usually search Yahoo, Google and Dogpile.
I think it's neat that Yahoo includes blogs in its results, though.
Way cool!
jb: Are you sure that yahoo includes blogs in its search or is it when searching for news?
I am a bit confused I search for IIPM on google, yahoo, yahoo news and google news
Vantage Point is there in the top 10 results. And in google news the first link is NDTV talking about the blog wars
akash
That was a good post. I just did same thing on yahoo & google and the very first result in yahoo search is that of desipundit. It is actually known that yahoo's algorithm is better than google.
There are search engines who give better results than google. Clusty is a search engine based on the clustering algorithm and was featured in TIME's 50 coolest websites in 2005. Amazon's A9 and AskJeeves have also come up with better search algorithms and give more sensible results than google.
What "better" search result constitutes is a subjective matter. All search engines have their own way of ranking various search results. Mridula, the discrepancy that you found can most easily be explained by arguing that yahoo happened to spider the relevant website earlier than google.
Suzunita,
Its incorrect to say that google copied from yahoo search, yahoo maps etc. Search was there before google, ads were there before google, email was there before google, maps were there before google. But google gave the most relevant results, and one found most of what s/he was looking for in the first couple of pages. Google made ads non-obstrusive... compare printout of directions from mapquest with that of google and tell me which one is more uncluttered. Google allowed one to drag maps around... and you could do it nearly seamlessly... most other applications have buttons that you click and wait for page to load. Satellite pictures is not something google came up with... but a hybrid view and allowing people to "tag" a location is something new. Google local allows you to search local listings when a particular part of the map is displayed. The premise behind "labels" in google mail is that you don't need to organize mails into folders; only label them, and search for a message instead of spending time sorting or organizing them. Also, the conversation view of gmail is also makes so much sense.
I think the main forte of google is not so much the novelty of its products, but the user-centric nature of them.
I am not writing this to point out that google is better than yahoo or vice verca. In fact, I myself have questioned in the past why techie bloggers go ga-ga over every little thing that google does.
In any case, as long as google and yahoo (and others) compete, consumers (*us*) win.
Hi all, you must have seen from my writings that I am no geek. My objective in writing this has been small and limited to IIPM issue and that of mixing blogs with regular stuff. Beyond that I am not competent to comment. However, anyone who wishes to carry on with this debate is most welcome.
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